Read both (on the website under readings) What are the similarities in these two documents that Dr. King is drawing on? Each student will make 1 blog post and 2 comments.
King references the Declaration of Independence many times in his speech that "all men are created equal." do you think when that was written it pertained to African Americans? Technically they were "men" but a slave was considered property.
I think the the founding fathers thought of slaves as property instead of men, which sadly African Americans were not considered to the founding fathers as "all men are created equal". It is hard and sad to imagine a time when people were not considered people in a society.
I'd have to disagree with Jake and agree with Thomas. Obviously the founding fathers didn't have black men in mind as they were writing the Declaration of Independence. In no way is it equal for a black man to be kidnapped from his home country, bought like an object at auctions, and then forced against his free will to work under other man as slave. Jake, how can you believe that they included black men in that when such things were happening? Black Men and White men definitely had the same equal rights back then.
Yeah well I have to agree with all people and say your wrong. Good try tho. How can you not believe that they included black men? thats the real question. thanks bye
It was probably intended to pertain to them, but they might have been foreshadowing what they wanted the country to turn in to, even though most of the people involved with the founding of the country were slave owners.
Martin Luther King mentions Mississippi as being a terrible struggle for equality, why do you think some states seemed less accepting of blacks than other's?
Answer to Grants's Question: I think the the founding fathers thought of slaves as property instead of men, which sadly African Americans were not considered to the founding fathers as "all men are created equal". It is hard and sad to imagine a time when people were not considered people in a society.
I think that some states seemed less accepting of blacks than others because some states had less slavery than other states and it was easier to transition to no slavery for them.
Due to history, I believe that this statement it corrected the southern states were much less accepting to blacks. The northern states are were less biased to blacks but still not equal.
I agree with Jake. Many states were pro-slavery while others were against it. I believe a lot of this was because of the fact that their state depended heavily on slave labor to drive the agricultural economy. So when the slaves were set free, racial prejudice between whites and blacks still lingered due to the amount of slave labor that was required there.
The Southern states were more likely to limit the rights of African Americans because they had slaves. Northern states gave more rights to African Americans because of the Emancipation Proclamation and different ideals. However depending on the location, they could still be looked down on.
Of course the racism is more severe in the south, and past that is varied from state to state and town to town. He just used examples in his speech to get his point across.
African Americans were still not free 100 years later after slavery ended. Why do you think that this is the case and what could of been done to make them gain their freedom faster?
answer to grants question: Yes, I believe that the Declaration of Independece was referring to all men no matter what their skin color was.
answer to thomas's question: I think that some states seemed less accepting of blacks than others because some states had less slavery than other states and it was easier to transition to no slavery for them.
The African Americans were "legally" free, but they were not given equal rights. I believe this is the case because of the generation. The generation of that time was less accepting and had been taught that African Americans were less then whites. so the appropriate measures were not taken to ensure that the African Americans were considered equal.
I think that in some states, slavery was more prevalent obviously in the more southern states, but the more slave based states would be harsher to their slaves over the smaller slave states.
Dr. Martin Luther King's speech in a way reminds me of how the colonist were demanded to be treated with respect and dignity from the British. Both the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence and King's speech hit on the subject that all men are created equal. Not white, not black, but all men are created equal and are entitled to certain unalienable rights.
My question is: How do you think the founding fathers that approved the Declaration of Independence would react to MLK saying: "black men as well as white men would be guaranteed unalienable rights of life."
my anser is: I think that the founding fathers of the declaration were talking about all men being equal including blacks so i dont think they would think anything of it.
I think the founding would look at MLK like he was crazy. Because even though the blacks were not treated well in the 1960's, they were being treated even worse, in that they were slaves, when the founding fathers signed the Decleraion of Independence.
I do not feel the founding fathers would offended by MLK saying that, I think they would see it more as the Country is expanding and needs to change to become a "more perfect union" therefore I think they would accept the changes.
Yeah thomas I think you are wrong. Just saying. cause I believe that the creators of the Declaration were more sophisticated then to treat blacks the way they were treated.
I think the founding fathers would not have a problem with it, but some of them, like the ones that owned slaves, would. Most of the founding fathers were anti-slavery, so I assume they would give Africans equal rights.
In both Dr. King's speech and in The Decoration of Independence the points of oppression and and equality are stated.Dr. King is referencing the Declaration of Independence because the African Americans are going through the same thing as the colonists were.
Dr. Martin Luther King's speech says that when the Declaration of Independence gives all men, including African Americans, unalienable rights it can't exclude one group of people. The Declaration of Independence says that it is the right of the people to alter the government. In a summary of one part, it says that men are more likely to suffer under oppression than to change what they are accustomed to. Dr. King is trying to alter the government with his "I Have a Dream" speech.
Besides the still severe racism in our country, were the African Americans not free after the Civil War had ended and the emancipation proclamation was passed? Some stayed with their old plantations because even though they were free, they had nothing, and now way to start a life on their own in some sort of comfort.
I think MLK used the Decleration of Independence in his speech to inspire the people. That was the whole reason MLK was there to inspire eveyone, and what is more inspirational than the Decleration of Independence, which founded the best country in the world.
King references the Declaration of Independence many times in his speech that "all men are created equal." do you think when that was written it pertained to African Americans? Technically they were "men" but a slave was considered property.
ReplyDeleteYes, I believe that the Declaration of Independece was referring to all men no matter what their skin color was.
DeleteI think the the founding fathers thought of slaves as property instead of men, which sadly African Americans were not considered to the founding fathers as "all men are created equal". It is hard and sad to imagine a time when people were not considered people in a society.
DeleteI'd have to disagree with Jake and agree with Thomas. Obviously the founding fathers didn't have black men in mind as they were writing the Declaration of Independence. In no way is it equal for a black man to be kidnapped from his home country, bought like an object at auctions, and then forced against his free will to work under other man as slave. Jake, how can you believe that they included black men in that when such things were happening? Black Men and White men definitely had the same equal rights back then.
DeleteYeah well I have to agree with all people and say your wrong. Good try tho. How can you not believe that they included black men? thats the real question. thanks bye
DeleteEven Thomas Jefferson had slaves and he drafted the Declaration of Independence.
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DeleteI had to delete my previous comment because I didn't say nice things. Jake, I still disagree with you, lol.
DeleteIt was probably intended to pertain to them, but they might have been foreshadowing what they wanted the country to turn in to, even though most of the people involved with the founding of the country were slave owners.
DeleteMartin Luther King mentions Mississippi as being a terrible struggle for equality, why do you think some states seemed less accepting of blacks than other's?
ReplyDeleteAnswer to Grants's Question: I think the the founding fathers thought of slaves as property instead of men, which sadly African Americans were not considered to the founding fathers as "all men are created equal". It is hard and sad to imagine a time when people were not considered people in a society.
I think that some states seemed less accepting of blacks than others because some states had less slavery than other states and it was easier to transition to no slavery for them.
DeleteDue to history, I believe that this statement it corrected the southern states were much less accepting to blacks. The northern states are were less biased to blacks but still not equal.
DeleteI agree with Jake. Many states were pro-slavery while others were against it. I believe a lot of this was because of the fact that their state depended heavily on slave labor to drive the agricultural economy. So when the slaves were set free, racial prejudice between whites and blacks still lingered due to the amount of slave labor that was required there.
DeleteThe Southern states were more likely to limit the rights of African Americans because they had slaves. Northern states gave more rights to African Americans because of the Emancipation Proclamation and different ideals. However depending on the location, they could still be looked down on.
DeleteYea thats what im talking about chuma. Many states were pro-slavery!!!
DeleteOf course the racism is more severe in the south, and past that is varied from state to state and town to town. He just used examples in his speech to get his point across.
DeleteAfrican Americans were still not free 100 years later after slavery ended. Why do you think that this is the case and what could of been done to make them gain their freedom faster?
ReplyDeleteanswer to grants question: Yes, I believe that the Declaration of Independece was referring to all men no matter what their skin color was.
answer to thomas's question: I think that some states seemed less accepting of blacks than others because some states had less slavery than other states and it was easier to transition to no slavery for them.
The African Americans were "legally" free, but they were not given equal rights. I believe this is the case because of the generation. The generation of that time was less accepting and had been taught that African Americans were less then whites. so the appropriate measures were not taken to ensure that the African Americans were considered equal.
DeleteI think that in some states, slavery was more prevalent obviously in the more southern states, but the more slave based states would be harsher to their slaves over the smaller slave states.
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DeleteDr. Martin Luther King's speech in a way reminds me of how the colonist were demanded to be treated with respect and dignity from the British. Both the Preamble to the Declaration of Independence and King's speech hit on the subject that all men are created equal. Not white, not black, but all men are created equal and are entitled to certain unalienable rights.
ReplyDeleteMy question is: How do you think the founding fathers that approved the Declaration of Independence would react to MLK saying: "black men as well as white men would be guaranteed unalienable rights of life."
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my anser is: I think that the founding fathers of the declaration were talking about all men being equal including blacks so i dont think they would think anything of it.
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I think the founding would look at MLK like he was crazy. Because even though the blacks were not treated well in the 1960's, they were being treated even worse, in that they were slaves, when the founding fathers signed the Decleraion of Independence.
DeleteI do not feel the founding fathers would offended by MLK saying that, I think they would see it more as the Country is expanding and needs to change to become a "more perfect union" therefore I think they would accept the changes.
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Yeah thomas I think you are wrong. Just saying. cause I believe that the creators of the Declaration were more sophisticated then to treat blacks the way they were treated.
DeleteI think the founding fathers would not have a problem with it, but some of them, like the ones that owned slaves, would. Most of the founding fathers were anti-slavery, so I assume they would give Africans equal rights.
DeleteIn both Dr. King's speech and in The Decoration of Independence the points of oppression and and equality are stated.Dr. King is referencing the Declaration of Independence because the African Americans are going through the same thing as the colonists were.
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DeleteThe directions didn't require a question to be asked.
DeleteDr. Martin Luther King's speech says that when the Declaration of Independence gives all men, including African Americans, unalienable rights it can't exclude one group of people. The Declaration of Independence says that it is the right of the people to alter the government. In a summary of one part, it says that men are more likely to suffer under oppression than to change what they are accustomed to. Dr. King is trying to alter the government with his "I Have a Dream" speech.
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ReplyDeleteBesides the still severe racism in our country, were the African Americans not free after the Civil War had ended and the emancipation proclamation was passed? Some stayed with their old plantations because even though they were free, they had nothing, and now way to start a life on their own in some sort of comfort.
ReplyDeleteI think MLK used the Decleration of Independence in his speech to inspire the people. That was the whole reason MLK was there to inspire eveyone, and what is more inspirational than the Decleration of Independence, which founded the best country in the world.
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